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Old 08-11-2015, 05:32 AM
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PvP Symbol - Horde The Horde's Position going into the Legion Expansion

Orcs are still without a faction leader, and I doubt Thrall will be in a position to lead. The factions will be involved in more fighting, and we don't know what will happen to Sylvanas. Dalaran is going neutral again.

What's going to happen to the Horde?
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:40 AM
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Orcs are still without a faction leader, and I doubt Thrall will be in a position to lead. The factions will be involved in more fighting, and we don't know what will happen to Sylvanas. Dalaran is going neutral again.

What's going to happen to the Horde?
How do we know that factions will be involved in more fighting? From what I have seen or read so far, factions will be devastated and doing jack shit.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:45 AM
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How do we know that factions will be involved in more fighting? From what I have seen or read so far, factions will be devastated and doing jack shit.
I meant faction conflict, and Greymane and Sylvanas will be involved in Legion at the very least.
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:52 AM
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I meant faction conflict, and Greymane and Sylvanas will be involved in Legion at the very least.
Yes, I know. But that was the thing I was asking about. Do we know if there will actually be a faction conflict? And I am not talking about emergent world PVP or Battlegrounds, but about a faction conflict as a part of the story.

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Old 08-11-2015, 05:55 AM
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Yes, I know. But that was the thing I was asking about. Do we know if there will actually be faction conflict? And I am not talking about emergent world PVP or Battlegrounds, but faction conflict as a part of the story.
There's going to be tension between the factions, at least.
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:07 AM
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Yes, I know. But that was the thing I was asking about. Do we know if there will actually be a faction conflict? And I am not talking about emergent world PVP or Battlegrounds, but about a faction conflict as a part of the story.
Tension between the Horde and Alliance is an important part of the game and this expansion.

They also said that they'll be at each other's throats, and keep in mind they didn't consider Cata to be an actual war, so I'm expecting 5.1/Jade Forest style story but possibly larger.
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Old 08-11-2015, 06:43 AM
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Tension between the Horde and Alliance is an important part of the game and this expansion.

They also said that they'll be at each other's throats, and keep in mind they didn't consider Cata to be an actual war, so I'm expecting 5.1/Jade Forest style story but possibly larger.
I should have said that differently. Tension and isolated skirmishes are fine and as you said, are kind of given. I was talking more about some sort of an open, large scale conflict.

Edit: But I do not want to derail the thread with this. It was just a sincere question, as I have been wondering if I have missed something. Anyway, if I had a say in these matters, I would make Jorin Deadeye the orcish leader. Not only would that be kind of refreshing, as we would finally get a non-warrior orcish leader (even Thrall was warrior-shaman during his tenure as the Warchief), but given that he is basically just a blank page with "huge" name, I think they could make him work without any retcons, changes in characterization etc.

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Old 08-11-2015, 06:59 AM
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What I want to see: Drak'thul and his Stormreaver Outcasts becoming Horde's main expansion rep faction.

What I expect: Troll and Blood elf lore regarding the origins of those races.

What I don't get how to align with this expansion: something about Silvie and the Forsaken.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:03 AM
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What I want to see: Drak'thul and his Stormreaver Outcasts becoming Horde's main expansion rep faction.
That would be really neat. If Drak'thul doesn't show up, I'm gonna be really disappointed.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:19 AM
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That would be really neat. If Drak'thul doesn't show up, I'm gonna be really disappointed.
At least as an NPC, not as a raid boss.

Maybe make him a Lorewalker Cho kind of figure?
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:26 AM
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If Drak'thul doesn't show up, I'm gonna be really disappointed.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:27 AM
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At least as an NPC, not as a raid boss.

Maybe make him a Lorewalker Cho kind of figure?
A crotchety, morally ambiguous, dispenser of unreliable backstory that nonetheless works in our best interest?

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Old 08-11-2015, 07:31 AM
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Drak'thul was also one of the first "Neutral NPCs". He gave a quest to Maiev, for pity's sake!
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:46 AM
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What I want to see: Drak'thul and his Stormreaver Outcasts becoming Horde's main expansion rep faction.
The Stormreavers should have become the class group for Warlocks, like the Silver Hand became for Paladins.

Who is the class group for Warlocks?
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:47 AM
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The Stormreavers should have become the class group for Warlocks, like the Silver Hand became for Paladins.

Who is the class group for Warlocks?
Probably the Council of the Black Harvest.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:48 AM
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Black Harvest?
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The Stormreavers should have become the class group for Warlocks, like the Silver Hand became for Paladins.

Who is the class group for Warlocks?
It should be New Shadow Council, because it actually is known for hiring members of different races.

Stormreavers are not Warlock-only, they have different classes.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:49 AM
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It should be New Shadow Council, because it actually is known for hiring members of different races.

Stormreavers are not Warlock-only, they have different classes.
That would be awkward, after spending all of WoD killing Shadow Council members.
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Old 08-11-2015, 07:50 AM
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That would be awkward, after spending all of WoD killing Shadow Council members.
AU Stuff = Irrelevant.

Black Harvest is such a corny name. It makes you feel like some unlucky farmer, instead of a shadowy warlock.
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It should be New Shadow Council, because it actually is known for hiring members of different races.

Stormreavers are not Warlock-only, they have different classes.
Pretty sure the Shadow Council is pro-Legion. Black Harvest is anti-Legion. Besides, we're assuming that all of these class halls will have faction names. We're not even sure if Blizzard will still call the Paladin one the Silver Hand.
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Pretty sure the Shadow Council is pro-Legion. Black Harvest is anti-Legion. Besides, we're assuming that all of these class halls will have faction names. We're not even sure if Blizzard will still call the Paladin one the Silver Hand.
We're making out own New Shadow Council, with blackjack and succubi.
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Demon Hunters will get the cooler version anyways, so why even care? :3
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Demon Hunters will get the cooler version anyways, so why even care? :3
DHs will have some Illidari Council, it is irrelevant to us orcish warlocks.
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DHs will have some Illidari Council, it is irrelevant to us orcish warlocks.
That's not how class halls work.
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Old 08-11-2015, 08:38 AM
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If I understand correctly, the entire lore reason why the class factions are supposedly getting together is because the Horde and Alliance are too busy at each other's throats (again) in order to effectively deal with the Legion so it's basically up to the "neutrals" to stop the Legion since the others just can't stop killing each other.

Now, of all the people who are likely to cause shit who do you think will cause the most shit? The most obvious cases would be the legitimate grievances of Gilneas and Sylvanas, since she's a bitch.

The Darkspear trolls, Tauren, goblins,Blood Elves aren't really the type to wage war really.
The Orcs had their Orc hitler killed and Thrall and Saurfang are still around so no more Orc Hitlers so that leaves the Forsaken.

Jaina might wage war and Varian is possible if the Horde fucks up again, Night Elves have already pushed the Orcs out so that's unlikely to cause more of an issue while Dranei and Gnomes wont. Dwarves might if Moira fucks around abit more or again Sylvanas issues happen thus leaving Gilneas.

Huh...
I can only really see the biggest obstacle to peace or to war as either being an Orc Hitler or Sylvanas, everything else peace would be likely.

We'll have to wait and see.
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