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Old 08-06-2013, 11:51 AM
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So, um, is it tasty or not?
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:56 AM
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So, um, is it tasty or not?
Apparently it tastes like something "close to meat".
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Old 08-06-2013, 11:56 AM
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Probably still taste more like meat than McDonald's.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:18 PM
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So, um, is it tasty or not?
Insipid but close.

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Lol, do you really think they won't modify these cells to grow faster? These cells and lab grown foods will be even easier to modify than real crops and animals. If they don't, they will never be able to make it cheaper then a live animal.

I will stick with the real thing as long as I can.
I'm stating the differences, not the possibilities.

Also that's not the "real thing" either(in america at least).

This is.

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Old 08-06-2013, 12:26 PM
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Insipid but close.



I'm stating the differences, not the possibilities.

Also that's not the "real thing" either(in america at least).

This is.
Yes it is the real thing. The pictures I posted are of my cattle, on my farm, in the US. I deal with cattle everyday, my own and other peoples. What we have is what everyone else has. What you posted is a Holstein bull, used for breeding, not food.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:35 PM
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The people saying "well I'm not gonna eat it and damn the consequences" won't be saying that when the price of natural beef skyrockets within the next couple of decades but lab-grown beef stays cheap.
Honestly if most people ate the meat of a cow that was raised normal by some farmer they'd be amazed at how much better that meat tastes than the meat we mass produce from animals that are treated horribly and injected with all types of shit.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:41 PM
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Honestly if most people ate the meat of a cow that was raised normal by some farmer they'd be amazed at how much better that meat tastes than the meat we mass produce from animals that are treated horribly and injected with all types of shit.
'sides, there will always be people willing to shell out the extra coin for "the real deal".

It's been true for virtually everything else in all of history, and I wager it'll be true for this as well.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:44 PM
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Honestly if most people ate the meat of a cow that was raised normal by some farmer they'd be amazed at how much better that meat tastes than the meat we mass produce from animals that are treated horribly and injected with all types of shit.
But they wouldn't like it because they're not used to it. I know people that will eat chicken nuggets or a hamburger from McDonald's before a real piece of chicken or a good steak. It's their choice, I'm not going to stop them, but I think they are crazy.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:16 PM
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Yes it is the real thing. The pictures I posted are of my cattle, on my farm, in the US. I deal with cattle everyday, my own and other peoples. What we have is what everyone else has. What you posted is a Holstein bull, used for breeding, not food.
No, that's for food.

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Old 08-06-2013, 01:29 PM
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I support any advancement in food production. Especially the potential medicinal advances that could come from it.
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:21 PM
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Also that's not the "real thing" either(in america at least).

This is.


No, that's for food.

Did you watch the video? All the cattle in it were bulls. Used for breeding (Bulls do not make good cuts of meat, but they can be ground up for hamburger). They even showed them collecting the semen for breeding. All of this was done though selective breeding, no GMO stuff. And it is all happening in some other country other than the USA. So this has absolutely nothing to do with anything about the GMO beef in the USA that you were complaining about from seeing my picture.
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Old 08-06-2013, 04:24 PM
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Did you watch the video? All the cattle in it were bulls. Used for breeding (Bulls do not make good cuts of meat, but they can be ground up for hamburger). They even showed them collecting the semen for breeding. All of this was done though selective breeding, no GMO stuff. And it is all happening in some other country other than the USA. So this has absolutely nothing to do with anything about the GMO beef in the USA that you were complaining about from seeing my picture.
Except they directly stated it was for food.

And yes I'm now aware it was made trough selective breeding and not direct genetic manipulation, trough I remember that documentary to have. From what I remember it also happened in the US. But I could be remembering wrong.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:07 AM
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All of this was done though selective breeding, no GMO stuff.
You know what the difference is?

Time and accuracy.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:12 AM
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Except they directly stated it was for food.

And yes I'm now aware it was made trough selective breeding and not direct genetic manipulation, trough I remember that documentary to have. From what I remember it also happened in the US. But I could be remembering wrong.
I know they said that, but the bulls they have in that clip were not raised for slaughter. Their genetics are used for beef in other cattle, but not these ones specifically. Those are extremely well bread, and cost a lot of money. Here in the USA, they could bring anywhere from $25,000 to $100,000 a piece. They said they weigh over a ton, so lets say 2200lbs. You usually get 1/3 the animals weight in meat, lets say we get 1/2 for these because of the muscle mass, giving us 1100 lbs of hamburger(Remember, bulls do not make good steaks. Letting a bull grow to maturity will ruin the marbling and texture of the meat.They raise steers for meat). Using the low end $25,000 figure, that would make this beef $22.73 a pound, or about $90 per hamburger for just the meet. No one would pay that.

What these bulls are raised for is breeding stock. They will collect and sell the semen (as they showed in the video) and sell that to other cattle producers. The producers will use it to get these good genetics in there herd, so that there cattle will do better, grow with more muscle tone.

If you are worried about there size, I will tell you that the bull in the picture I posted weighs over a ton too, around 2400lbs. And he is not the biggest we have ever had. We had on over 3000lbs about 10 years ago.

If you are worried about their looks, they explain that they are exaggerated from the grooming. A lot of animals look weird when shaved.


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You know what the difference is?

Time and accuracy.
Yep, but GMO sounds scary. It has to be bad.
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Old 08-07-2013, 08:48 AM
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Yep, but GMO sounds scary. It has to be bad.

Pretty much.


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Old 08-07-2013, 09:09 AM
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I have a few complaints with GMO foods, some of them can be shortened to the tests only being done for a short amount of time.
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Old 08-07-2013, 09:21 AM
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My main issue with GMO products are the companies behind them, not the actual food.
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Old 08-07-2013, 10:51 AM
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:32 PM
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