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Old 04-19-2018, 11:24 AM
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That's something I've been hoping for and somewhat predicting from the beginning, but lately, the thought has been seriously faltering. I suppose how everybody's just going "we will switch to the Old Gods in about two patches, hah" is not helping either.
What sort of dire consequences were you envisioning?

Please do not be general. Be specific.
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:10 PM
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Liadrin's New Appearance in Battle for Azeroth

http://bfa.wowhead.com/news=283686/l...le-for-azeroth
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Old 04-19-2018, 05:55 PM
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:31 PM
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Liadrin in Legion: "You're a monster for trying to raise Tirion in undeath, Darion!"
Liadrin in BfA: "I'm sooooo psyched to serve my new Warchief who habitually raises innocent people into undeath!"
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:43 PM
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Liadrin in Legion: "You're a monster for trying to raise Tirion in undeath, Darion!"
Liadrin in BfA: "I'm sooooo psyched to serve my new Warchief who habitually raises innocent people into undeath!"
That's why you never trust an elf
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:09 PM
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New build up.

There's a new Old Man Grommash model in it.

http://www.wowhead.com/news=283703/b...odels-grommash

And you can play as Dark Irons and Mag'har.
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:28 PM
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Man, the Uldir sets are utterly bland thus far.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:55 PM
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Lilian Voss
In the last build, we learned about Brother Zelling, a dying member of the Tiragarde who wished to be turned into Forsaken so he could still protect his family. In the latest build, we follow up on that story and see Zelling's reactions once he is transformed.
Miss Voss, <cough> please... bring me back... I must help my family... I'll do anything... anything...
What? Your family will think you're a monster, don't be ridiculous!
You'll be shunned if you become one of us. You look in a mirror and all you'll see is a monster.
Please... I need to... take care... of my family... no matter what.
I... I live! Haha! I must go see Julia and the children, they will be delighted!
... I guess we'll have to see what happens now.

For the last time, STAY BACK! You are NOT my husband!
Why won't you UNDERSTAND?! It's me, your husband... children it's your daddy!
Momma I'm scared of the zombie!
Stay away!
Daddy is right here, just listen to my voice! Why aren't you understanding this?!
Keep it away!
Momma help us!
THAT'S ENOUGH!
I... I...
I don't know who you are, but my husband NEVER tried to hurt me or his children. We are leaving... do not follow us!
Quiet!
Get it away!
Leave us be!
Make the monster go away!
No... Julia... Matthew... Hannah... what have I done? What.. am I?
Lilian tries to show Zelling how he can still survive as a Forsaken even without the love of his family:
I tried to warn you, Zelling. The process changes you. People won't accept you anymore.

And what am I left with? Become a mindless servant to Sylvanas?
You serve no one. Join the Forsaken and carve your own path. You'll be amongst those who accept you for what you've become.
I will join the you... and help you find Captain Valentine. As long as you promise that my family remains unharmed.
You have my word. Come. $n, return to Nathanos and inform him that we have what we need.


Also Taelia is Bolvar's daughter
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:04 PM
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:06 PM
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I caused the downfall of one king. Perhaps it is time I ended the reign of another.

What the hell, Garona?
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What the hell, Voss?
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Old 04-19-2018, 11:57 PM
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Liadrin in Legion: "You're a monster for trying to raise Tirion in undeath, Darion!"
Liadrin in BfA: "I'm sooooo psyched to serve my new Warchief who habitually raises innocent people into undeath!"
The horde narrative is all over the place as usual, which is unfortunate as the non faction war storyline looks real good here.

This is another big reason I hated MOP, because I knew they'd go right back to step 1 next expansion.
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Old 04-20-2018, 12:49 AM
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What sort of dire consequences were you envisioning?

Please do not be general. Be specific.
I can't be specific because I wasn't really envisioning anything specific.

Edit: Anyway, looking at the missions and some phasing in Ashenvale, it is clear the Night Elves do keep military presence in Northern Kalimdor after Teldrassil gets burned. I presume the story is going to be the Horde is not going to fight he majority of their military (which will be south due to Sylvanas' ruse), and they are going to arrive only after the World Tree is burned, with the civilians feeling to the Azuremyst Isles and the military continuing to fight on the continent. Hope this will make you feel better (genuinely).

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Old 04-20-2018, 02:01 AM
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Well, Well, Well.

It seems time has passed indeed on AU Dreanor.
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Old 04-20-2018, 03:49 AM
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:49 AM
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What does Jaina say to Anduin there?

That little chat between Saurfang and Anduin leads ke to believe Saurfang is going to be involved in taking down Sylvanas 100%. Restoring honour indeed.
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And all it takes is a tactically calculated "for the Horde" rallying the troops to make them all think "OMG she really does care!"
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Old 04-20-2018, 06:00 AM
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What does Jaina say to Anduin there?
I think she might just be shaking her head and not actually saying anything, but because it's using a version of the generic human female /no animation, it makes it look like she's moving her mouth.
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Old 04-20-2018, 06:56 AM
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New build up.

There's a new Old Man Grommash model in it.

http://www.wowhead.com/news=283703/b...odels-grommash

And you can play as Dark Irons and Mag'har.
Grommash look old!!Is not that supposed to be young in that timeline?
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:05 AM
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I can't be specific because I wasn't really envisioning anything specific.

Edit: Anyway, looking at the missions and some phasing in Ashenvale, it is clear the Night Elves do keep military presence in Northern Kalimdor after Teldrassil gets burned. I presume the story is going to be the Horde is not going to fight he majority of their military (which will be south due to Sylvanas' ruse), and they are going to arrive only after the World Tree is burned, with the civilians feeling to the Azuremyst Isles and the military continuing to fight on the continent. Hope this will make you feel better (genuinely).
I appreciate that, and it does make me feel better about the situation. I had attempted to lay out a post with the sort of rubric I'd be using to evaluate the content, but it got hung up and lost in posting. I may yet put it up given that we still have very little information.

As for what we do have, the text of the mission table missions indicate to me that they are happening pre-Teldrassil. They are evacuating the island before the Horde even gets there (which if I'm being honest, feels strange). Silverwing is for the moment lost, Astraanar is for the moment the site of a counterattack. It is far too soon to take these missions as an indication of how things will settle.

Meaning I still have time to set forth my evaluation criteria.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:31 AM
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Grommash look old!!Is not that supposed to be young in that timeline?
From what we know what got datamined in Past Alpha builds, the connection between MU Azeroth and AU Dreanor is gone and the Horde has to contact the Bronze Dragonflight to travel to it.

And now we know why. Remember what got written about Alternate Timelines in Chronicles III.

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AU Dreanor has now most likely resynced 100%ly with the MU, meaning that 30+ years have past there since we left.

This is probatly also the reason why the Bronze Dragons "allow" the Horde to travel there. It's technically not AU anymore.

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Old 04-20-2018, 07:47 AM
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Lich King: Cyrus never told you what happened to your father

Taelia: He told me enough! He told me you killed him.

Lich King: No, I am you're father!

Taelia: no... no... thats not true...THATS IMPOSSIBLE!

Lich King: Search you're feelings, you know it to be true!

Taelia: NOOOOOO!

Lich king: Join me, and together we can rule azeroth as father and daughter
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:54 AM
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From what we know what got datamined in Past Alpha builds, the connection between MU Azeroth and AU Dreanor is gone and the horde has to contact the Bronze Dragonflight to travel to it.

And now we know why. Remember what got written about Alternate Timelines in Chronicles III.



AU Dreanor has now most likely resynced 100%ly with the MU, meaning that 30+ years have past there since we left.

This is probatly also the reason why the Bronze Dragons "allow" the Horde to trave lthere. It's technically not AU anymore.
I was hoping for this. I’d like to know how things have gone over the last 39 years, and it’s great for my RP/Transmog plans.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:18 AM
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I really hope we can bring Yrel with us, but i doubt it
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:32 AM
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Liadrin in Legion: "You're a monster for trying to raise Tirion in undeath, Darion!"
Liadrin in BfA: "I'm sooooo psyched to serve my new Warchief who habitually raises innocent people into undeath!"
and the alliance has void elves that almost destroy the sunwell
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:44 AM
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:31 AM
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Nothing in the cutscenes is voiced, that's why I used gifs.

Picking up where we left after finding Amalia Stone.

Next questline
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