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Old 03-18-2015, 01:26 PM
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It seems all of these things are utterly hated by SJWs, especially on tumblr to a large extent because of the claim that they are pathetic.

First of all, I am kind of a "feminist". I feel bad for Skyler White, not Walt, gradually got disgusted by gamergate's conduct despite offering initial support after the Brienna Wu incident, ultimatly turning my back on them, and think a lot of nice guys that claim to be so to get into peoples pants are just creepy pathetic assholes. And I have gotten bullied because of my closeness to some women by these very self-proclaimed nice guys. Not to mention that I think the friendzone is BS and take rejection very easily. But as I mentioned here...



Some of these sterotypes are just pathetic. As a HATER of the HIMYM finale what makes Ted pathetic and entitled just because of Robin? And what makes Barney pure and nice just because he is a better match for Robin? While he is a much better match, he wasn't always a good person as I have said and this is just no different than Draco in Leather Pants glorification that in turn gives ammo to the worst of the self-proclaimed OKC Niceguys who whine about girls going for jerks over proving that this lie is untrue, and even is kinda based on borderline social darwinism. At the very least Ted had tried to let Robin go and he didn't pine over Robin when with any other girl that was presented. Take Robin out of the equation and there wont be much to dislike about him. The ending is already bad as it is, but why politicize it to be feminism vs. the MRA with the latter controlling all the media with Ted as their evil puppet and armies of pathetic forever alone morons from the depths of OKC at their side when he isn't even remotely evil at all?

The finale was indeed poorly written, but Ted was also ruined by the finale too because he moved on from Robin before the final episode. The funny thing is that if we erase the ending from canon we will have very little to hate about Ted because his story would end with him moving on and that erases the perceived MRA/NiceGuysOfOKC propaganda spewed by the finale. Furthermore why isnt it considered that Ted is just as much of a victim of the writing to the MRAs and the NiceGuysTM as the rest of the cast and story?

It's funny too because Eponine from Les Mis is always shipped with Marius on tumblr despite having nice girl tendencies, especially in the novel, yet no one cares. And that is not getting into the fact that while Cosette WAS a bit bland the story is tied to Valjean, not the ABC gang. She needed to find love to resolve Valjean's arc IMO. I don't hate Eponine but it's a bit wrong to say she deserves Marius just because of On My Own.

And this isn't the only thing hyped by the SJWs, we see this all the time. If you wear a trilby or a fedora you are seen as the scum of the earth and are automatically associated with the so-called nice guys--even if you are a neckbeard or wear that hat...but can tell the difference between a trilby and a fedora and genuinely respect women and think the friendzone is BS, the tumblr SJWs wont hear anything of it and overlook these traits. It's the same thing with waifus, if we have an obsession with a fictional Japanese character it's considered a form of patriarchy or insanity.

Likewise I think bronies could be celebration of inverse gender roles feminists have long called for(boys liking girls stuff), yet SJWs tie them to the worst of the self-proclaimed nice guys. Why is all of this happening? And frankly this conversation is toxic in itself and actually prevents any legitimate discussion against the true nature of self-proclaimed nice guys or legitimate critique of the friendzone or any legitimate ways for feminism to express itself. Instead the genuine assholes posing as nice guys and ranting about forever alone and the friendzoen will look at this and circlejerk to themselves at being "proven right" about women always going for douchbags and further reinforce that claim no matter how bs it is.
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Old 03-18-2015, 02:30 PM
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:24 PM
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Ok I will tell you why I make this thread, because of the fact that the demonization of these sterotypes is so prevelent as the idea that the simple embrace of sterotype x means you're a douchebag without examining any case-to-case basis of self-entitlement among neckbeards and bronies but paint badly the whole.

And as for Ted...it really gives(man a HIMYM fan should chime in here) us haters of the finale a bad name. It is very biased to view Ted through the lens of the nice guys of OKC who are really self-entitled assholes because he is genuinely remorseful of his crush and dosen't demonize Barney or Robin just because--this is the difference. Also you can't say he is inherently selfish because he had a traumatic childhood experience to say the least that made him make irrational choices on love that got into his psyche.

Furthermore, while Barney was more entertaining let it be known that he was important because he redeemed himself(or would have had they not fucked it up) to be a better person not because he was already ready for Robin since day one--this was a man who messed with the minds of women, worked for arms dealers, considered Joffrey the ideal king for Westeroes and wanted polygamy clause to have 8 wives before his redemption from this lifestyle. By portraying him as inherently good until ruined in the end you are also neglecting his redemption arc and perverting genuine admiration for a character into DILP style fantasies that had been arrayed against the Weasleys in Harry Potter.

Compare what Ted really says to this self-entitled fantasy, huge difference. It's also hypocritical because Ross from friends is also pathetic in SJW lens yet even SJWs rarely diss over him and Rachel for the same reasons cuz nostaligia

And if we blot that episode from our memory than we have even less to hate about him.
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Old 03-18-2015, 07:26 PM
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:04 PM
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xie233, the problem with this post is that it's all over the place. I've never seen HIMYM, so I have only a vague idea as to what goes on in that show. If that's what you want to complain about, put it in the Television thread.

Alternately, if you want to make a post in which to express your concern about the demonization of bronies and fedora-wearers, than focus on that.
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Old 03-18-2015, 08:31 PM
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:04 PM
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xie233, the problem with this post is that it's all over the place. I've never seen HIMYM, so I have only a vague idea as to what goes on in that show. If that's what you want to complain about, put it in the Television thread.

Alternately, if you want to make a post in which to express your concern about the demonization of bronies and fedora-wearers, than focus on that.
I know you only want to help, but let this die an honorable death.
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Again, xie makes a thread about things no one cares about.
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Old 03-19-2015, 12:27 AM
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Again, xie makes a thread about things no one cares about.
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Old 03-19-2015, 04:29 AM
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I was about to post a link to tumblr or blogspot but the derails always make these threads worth it.
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Old 03-19-2015, 06:11 AM
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Well, this thread's not going anywhere.

So, how about that barbie series?

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