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Old 07-17-2019, 09:26 AM
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Unfortunately, there's no way he can be found guilty at this point. Years of blocking federal court appointments (not just SCOTUS seats) has resulted in a stacked judicial branch that doesn't care about the Constitution and will make the president a monarch. There's no real chance of even the blatant violations of the emoluments clause sticking.
The only hope we have is a huge blue wave to remove those justices from their seats and put good ones in their place. Unfortunately, the right is trying to impede democracy at all costs and send us spiraling further into fascism.
This is the real danger with what Trump and the Repubs have done, they've changed the votes needed so one party can ignore others for a lot of things, and they've altered the way our democracy... WORKED in fundamental ways just so they can get their way.
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Old 07-17-2019, 01:20 PM
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Okay, I do think this is a problem the Democrats are facing: it doesn't look like they have any idea what to even impeach Trump for.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/17/p...ote/index.html
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Green has dismissed calls from within his party to hold off on the resolution, which he introduced Tuesday evening, arguing that impeachment should follow Tuesday's House vote that condemned the President's racist tweets.

"I should not hold off, we should go forward as expeditiously as possible and we should do so because on yesterday we convicted the President ... The condemnation was a conviction. Today we have the opportunity to punish," Green said a reference to the resolution that passed Tuesday condemning racist language used by the President. "As a result of what we did yesterday, the President suffers no harm, he doesn't have to pay any fine, he's not going to lose his job. But today we have the opportunity to punish."
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But Green said he chose to move forward with his resolution because he thinks Congress should send Trump "a powerful message that this country will not tolerate bigotry, racism, hate, xenophobia, Islamophobia."

He noted that his impeachment resolution is not connected to Mueller or the findings of his investigation.

"You don't delay justice. The Mueller hearing has nothing to do with what we're doing now. The Mueller hearing is all about obstruction, this is about bigotry and racism and that racism that's been infused into policy," Green said.
So Representative Green introduced a resolution to impeach Donald Trump for...
for racist and hateful tweets he made on Twitter? Is that even a thing?

And the rest of them are anticipating that Mueller will give testimony that makes stronger grounds for impeachment than his report was able to give?

Pelosi has a point. They can't just impeach the president for being a jackass. That won't help them.

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Old 07-17-2019, 02:33 PM
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TBF, there's no reason they couldn't bring up articles of impeachment multiple times for unique criminal violations. I don't really see that happening, but who the fuck knows?

The argument in favor of impeachment is that it gives the minority party the bully pulpit (much as Repubs did with Clinton in the 90s) and allows them the media space to get more clips and soundbites out into the public that will harm Trump's image. It's the same thing with the Mueller testimony. Most people didn't read the redacted Mueller report, so having him testify and get a lot of the same statements on camera will could go a long way to chip away at the "Totally Exonerated" narrative.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:22 AM
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The cop that murdered that innocent man in the hotel room a while back was rehired so that the department could give him free money for life.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48969432

If you haven't seen the video, I recommend going and finding it. You need to see what our police force is doing and what the "thin blue line" types are defending.
The fact that this whole thing was just glossed over and barely reported on just outrages me.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:06 AM
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The fact that this whole thing was just glossed over and barely reported on just outrages me.
Welcome to the shit show.
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Old 07-20-2019, 02:21 PM
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It seems that for the religious right, adultery and concentration camps are fine, but saying "goddamn" is just the worst.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...-said-goddamn/
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Old 07-20-2019, 04:53 PM
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Ah yes, "friendlyatheist.patheos.com" sounds like such a great source of news for well-reasoned individuals.
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Ah yes, "friendlyatheist.patheos.com" sounds like such a great source of news for well-reasoned individuals.
Not an argument.
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Not an argument.
Regardless it's anecdotal and not really relevant.
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Yes, this is nothing.

If Trump saying, "Goddamn" is the line in the sand for "True Christians™"....
instead of family separations and Muslim bans and paid off/intimidated victims of sexual assault and rape, then that's insane.
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