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Old 11-23-2015, 03:49 PM
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Will the Scourge get into the pic again? Since Illidan could be brought back, how about Arthas?
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:50 PM
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Will the Scourge get into the pic again? Since Illidan could be brought back, how about Arthas?
I hope not. It would do the lore a terrible disservice if characters began to be resurrected left and right like in superhero comics.
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Old 11-23-2015, 03:53 PM
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I hope not. It would do the lore a terrible disservice if characters began to be resurrected left and right like in superhero comics.
You mean besides the ones who already have?
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I hope not. It would do the lore a terrible disservice if characters began to be resurrected left and right like in superhero comics.
Isn't the continuity already the same like the superhero comics?

It's actually less awkward for Arthas to make a return since he was the Lich King.
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Old 11-23-2015, 04:12 PM
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You mean besides the ones who already have?
Yes The less damage the better.
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Old 11-23-2015, 04:31 PM
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The Scourge is still around.
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Old 11-23-2015, 04:54 PM
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Yes The less damage the better.
But Arthas making a return is not really damaging to the continuity.
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Old 11-23-2015, 05:05 PM
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Arthas' send off wasn't better than Illidan's so whatever.
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Old 11-23-2015, 07:18 PM
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Arthas' send off wasn't better than Illidan's so whatever.
Nah he was fine.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:42 AM
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Nah he was fine.
Not much.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:54 AM
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1. Make an amazing plan that includes recruiting a bunch of goons who you totally need.

2. Reveal your amazing plan to the goons you totally need.

3. Let Tyrion hang around you.

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Old 11-24-2015, 02:32 PM
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1. Make an amazing plan that includes recruiting a bunch of goons who you totally need.

2. Reveal your amazing plan to the goons you totally need.

3. Let Tyrion hang around you.

4. Tyrion breaks free and proceeds to help kill you.
Why does he need to betray those goons? He could revive them back afterwards.
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Old 11-24-2015, 02:59 PM
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Bolvar Fordragon is the Lich King now, right? So he basically has command over countless undead goons, and has the psychic/arcane/whatever power to micromanage them.

Seems like he should use the Scourge as a nonpartisan reconstruction team for post-Cataclysm reclamation efforts.
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:06 PM
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Bolvar Fordragon is the Lich King now, right? So he basically has command over countless undead goons, and has the psychic/arcane/whatever power to micromanage them.

Seems like he should use the Scourge as a nonpartisan reconstruction team for post-Cataclysm reclamation efforts.
Sadly, he may be too busy moping. If anything, he should be using his Scourge against the Burning Legion.
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:12 PM
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While I liked the pre-Rise of the Lich King Arthas his character has been changed significantly and he was turned into a boring, one dimensional villain. I see no reason to bring him back for as a hero or villain. For him to be interesting he'd have to be changed substantially again.
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:17 PM
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Sadly, he may be too busy moping. If anything, he should be using his Scourge against the Burning Legion.
That'd also be a helpful idea. There's a tremendous amount of good that the current Lich King could do.

I now have the idea of the Lich King as an Eagle Scout type who's always using his legions of the shambling dead to help the world, but making everyone tremendously uncomfortable in so doing.
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:20 PM
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That'd also be a helpful idea. There's a tremendous amount of good that the current Lich King could do.

I now have the idea of the Lich King as an Eagle Scout type who's always using his legions of the shambling dead to help the world, but making everyone tremendously uncomfortable in so doing.
Instead, it appears that he now only exists as the "Defroster of the Damned."
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Old 11-24-2015, 03:37 PM
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Instead, it appears that he now only exists as the "Defroster of the Damned."
Blizzard needs to stop doing brooding characters. It's very old hat.
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Old 11-24-2015, 07:49 PM
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While I liked the pre-Rise of the Lich King Arthas his character has been changed significantly and he was turned into a boring, one dimensional villain. I see no reason to bring him back for as a hero or villain. For him to be interesting he'd have to be changed substantially again.
What if they redesign the character?

Illidan was also ruined in BC as well.
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Old 11-25-2015, 05:38 AM
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Blizzard needs to stop doing brooding characters. It's very old hat.
There is nothing new under the sun, but it would be nice if Blizzard explored the less explored, classic character tropes.
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:55 PM
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We just need Blizzard to get their heads out of their asses and remember Ner'zhul's actions and intelligence in the past, then acknowledge and confirm that Ner'zhul still resides within the Helm of Domination, Phylactery of the Lich King. That the original, true Lich King influences Bolvar's personality and reasoning.
Bolvar proved to possess a strong will, ironically after infamously being charmed and under the sway of Onyxia who was a much lesser force than the Lich King. But with that strong will, it'd make for an interesting battle of wills and whilst he acts as the Jailor of the Damned and Ner'zhul, his burden has a heavy toll on him!


The Helm of Domination and with extension Frostmourne was and should literally continue to be this, the phylactery and soulstone of Ner'zhul the Lich King
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Bolvar is a perfect Aidan and he deserves to be further tormented, thankfully that wretch, Tirion Fordring meets his end.



If they had any long term, long term vision for their storytelling and character narrative they should return to what the Lich King and Ner'zhul originally was which Christie Golden and those involved in WotlK's scourge narrative witlessly ruined.

We don't need Ner'zhul as the Lich King back, only that he still pulls strings beyond the dark curtains covered in the shadow of death. And if in in a few years or after a decade Blizzard is in need of one of their most iconic creations for a future Warcraft project or RTS - the means would be there.

There isn't much we can hope to be done about poor Arthas, their Anakin/Vader but there's still hope for Ner'zhul now that his spirit makes an appearance in Legion without anything done to it besides containment.

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Old 12-06-2015, 01:57 PM
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That'd also be a helpful idea. There's a tremendous amount of good that the current Lich King could do.

I now have the idea of the Lich King as an Eagle Scout type who's always using his legions of the shambling dead to help the world, but making everyone tremendously uncomfortable in so doing.
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