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Old 06-25-2013, 12:46 PM
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So there's been all this talk about the high elves becoming playable and all. I'm aware that many people will find them bland due to being a 'blood elf recolor', but I think it'd be an interesting choice on Blizzad's part as many players demand playable High Elves, and the next Burning Legion expansion seems like a great opportunity to bring Allieria and her high elves back in the game.


1. But they're blood elf recolors! Why would we want this?

Simply because there are many people wanting this to be implemented. The high elves also have a pretty unique flavor to them, and have an assortment of factors which make them different from their blood elven cousins.


2. All right. But why would they join the Alliance?

Because Allieria was vehemently against orcish expansionism and the Horde back in her heyday. Not to mention her sister, Vereesa, is also strictly Alliance.


3. And where would they live? Where would they develop their culture?

We know they are rejected, by their blood elven relatives. And we also know they're also very keen on arcane magic. So the ideal place would be a place with strong ley lines. And the Sunwell isn't a viable option.

The answer is simple. Eldre'Thalas. There are Highborne stuff there. We know the Highborne are drawn to the night elves' moonwells. Dire Maul seems like a great place for high elves. It's easy to secure too, with their night elf allies very close at Feathermoon Stronghold. And it makes sense. High elves in Eldre'Thalas.


4. Who will lead them?

Either Vereesa, Allieria, or some other high elf character whom we probably forgotten about. Or a new character. Blizzard seems able to make characters from scratch and add depth to them gradually.


5. But the Horde? What do they get in return?

Another race. There are just so many possibilities for them. Just think about it, the Stonemaul are already in the Horde and if they actually get to do something Blizzard can make a bold move and make them playable.


6. What would be their story?

The high elves are rejected by their blood elven brothers. They are left in the dust basically, and the only place where their kind is very welcome is Dalaran. They don't have a land of their own. Dire Maul seems to be the perfect place for this.

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but there are also Stonemaul in Feralas. Maybe if Blizzard makes the ogres playable we'll see some conflict between the high elves with night elf support against the Stonemaul with Horde support? Seems cool.

So what do you think of my idea?
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:53 PM
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I like high elves, I really do, but I don't like the idea of making them playable, if the horde gets a truly new race. Everyone knows what the consequences of such a move would be...
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I like high elves, I really do, but I don't like the idea of making them playable, if the horde gets a truly new race. Everyone knows what the consequences of such a move would be...
As I said, it'd be a bold move on Blizzard's part, but it could work really well if played out well.
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You forgot:

"7. How would you sell it to other Alliance players that they get a recolored Horde race while Horde gets a brand new race?"

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As I said, it'd be a bold move on Blizzard's part, but it could work really well if played out well.
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:58 PM
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"7. How would you sell it to other Alliance players that they get a recolored Horde race while Horde gets a brand new race?"
Will compensate for the Horde getting recolored elves in Burning Crusade. :-)
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:59 PM
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There is a lot of races that could easily join with the Horde.

Not so much with the Alliance...

And not so much Alliance races that can be made available for the Horde...

The closest would be humans, but making the top race neutral would be quite a questionable move.
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Will compensate for the Horde getting recolored elves in Burning Crusade. :-)
Yeeeeeah, that will convince them....
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Will compensate for the Horde getting recolored elves in Burning Crusade. :-)
They are Elves in name only, in terms of general appereance. But yeah, QQ will be so immense, that Sargeras will come to feed on all that energy being released.
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They are Elves in name only, in terms of general appereance. But yeah, QQ will be so immense, that Sargeras will come to feed on all that energy being released.
Of course! That's why they will do it! Else, they cannot summon Sargeras to make him the expansion villain!
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They are Elves in name only, in terms of general appereance. But yeah, QQ will be so immense, that Sargeras will come to feed on all that energy being released.
As I said, if the timing is right (presumably the BL expansion) then it may work fine.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:03 PM
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I like high elves, I really do, but I don't like the idea of making them playable, if the horde gets a truly new race. Everyone knows what the consequences of such a move would be...
The new race would be put in limbo forever. I mean, when a truly new race was implemented, it is what happened : the draeneļ and then the Worgen.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:04 PM
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Except it might not.

One of the few ways I can see this work is with Sub-Races ideas that been flowing around, but even then its a lot of work
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:07 PM
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Except it might not.

One of the few ways I can see this work is with Sub-Races ideas that been flowing around, but even then its a lot of work
The idea would require a lot of effort from Blizzard, but it'd be really cool.

And Blizzard managed to keep all Horde races in check with MoP. They can do the same for the Alliance.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:22 PM
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If they are also updating the Blood Elf model and Draenei one along with the rest of the original races then they would be fools to not let the Alliance play High Elves since they can add distinctions. I would like it myself since i find more choice the better especially if its a race that is highly played.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:25 PM
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If they are also updating the Blood Elf model and Draenei one along with the rest of the original races then they would be fools to not let the Alliance play High Elves since they can add distinctions. I would like it myself since i find more choice the better especially if its a race that is highly played.
This would require a lot of effort from Blizzard, and a great graphic overhaul, but I think your idea may work well if the change is noticeable enough.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:28 PM
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Playable high elf wretched... don't give Blizz strange ideas, folks!
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:29 PM
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Playable high elf wretched... don't give Blizz strange ideas, folks!
It's not like they'd even consider them. Do they even listen to feedback that isn't feedback from players who unsubbed?
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:36 PM
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If they are also updating the Blood Elf model and Draenei one along with the rest of the original races then they would be fools to not let the Alliance play High Elves since they can add distinctions. I would like it myself since i find more choice the better especially if its a race that is highly played.
What distinctions? What phenotype traits result from a recently diverged philosophical and political ideology?

Asking for Alliance playable high elves is like the Horde asking for playable Defias.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:38 PM
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What distinctions? What phenotype traits result from a recently diverged philosophical and political ideology?

Asking for Alliance playable high elves is like the Horde asking for playable Defias.
The difference being that the Defias are hostile to the Horde and the high elves are OK in the Alliance.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:44 PM
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Sure, how about you give the Horde ex-Legion Eredar then?

You get a light eyed HE and Horde get black and red Eredar.

But really...

we don't need more fucking Elves.

Subraces? Sure, but more elves?

Nah, we have enough as is.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:50 PM
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Someone once suggested giving the Horde a version of the draenei. I say do it. If it seems psychologically impossible to have Horde draenei, then shape the story to make it work. Say that Thrall gave them a smile and a wink, and won his Charisma roll.

And this way both factions can have access to the tremendous suckage that is draenei.


EDIT: Yeah, TaintedMage has the idea. Only he's being sarcastic.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:54 PM
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Sure, how about you give the Horde ex-Legion Eredar then?

You get a light eyed HE and Horde get black and red Eredar.

But really...

we don't need more fucking Elves.

Subraces? Sure, but more elves?

Nah, we have enough as is.
I tend to agree here. One race of elves per faction is fine.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:56 PM
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I tend to agree here. One race of elves per faction is fine.
. . .

You know, the Night Elves really deserve to be their own faction, after all...
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:04 PM
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:54 PM
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It would only work if High Elves got a new model that is distinctly different from the Blood Elven one.

Personally I want High Elves to be playable, in my mind they're kind of iconic to the Alliance.
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